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Rosie to drop anchor at MSNBC?

The word on the lesbian cable news street is that left-leaning Rosie O’Donnell is in discussions to join MSNBC for a nightly news show.

Nothing is final, but I’ll wager that if execs are talking to the New York Times, it’s all but decided. And in retrospect, it makes a lot of sense that Rosie would find another forum for her liberal lectures following her yearlong stint on The View, during which she regularly dissed President Bush, dished on 9/11 conspiracy theories and lengthily discussed gay marriage.

UPDATE: [Nov. 8] The MSNBC deal appears to be off. The New York Times has the story here and here.

She regularly updates her blog with entry after nigh-indecipherable entry about news items, including the presidential administration run amok, the war in Iraq and the Israel-Palestine conflict, among other current topics. And if you’ll recall, the last few years of The Rosie O’Donnell Show were a train wreck of emotional outbursts about gun control and foster care.

A prime-time news show would certainly make complete her transition from Broadway-loving Queen of Nice to Phil Donahue (or is that Marlo Thomas?) for the new millennium, but I worry. What happens when the girthy gabber goes head to talking head against Republicans who are smarter than her View foil Elizabeth Hasselbeck (not a difficult hurdle to jump)?

If history is any guide, her emotional and visceral reactions will provide endless grist for the mill that is Bill O’Reilly and the rest of the Fox News hacks, as well as every other right-wing hater. (I wouldn’t be surprised if O’Reilly dedicates a regular segment to debunking anything that comes out of her mouth.)

I also worry that when the going gets personal, she’ll give up, as she did with her recent publicity tour in support of her book Celebrity Detox. The normally outspoken O’Donnell canceled her scheduled media appearances, saying that she was “not ready to discuss or defend” the book and that her emotions were still “too raw.”

If that’s the case for a book written months prior, what about when she’s confronted directly? Will she walk off the set? Quit the show, a la The View? The established news show format dictates split screens and shouting, not to mention in-ear advice and a rigorous nightly schedule — and it doesn’t allow for audience participation and giveaways, Rosie’s bread and butter.

But because I’m a hopeless, helpless, huge fan of strong women who speak their minds, I can’t help but want her to succeed. And maybe, because it’ll be her show on her terms, she will find satisfaction. She’d certainly be in the company of other liberal hosts (talk is that she’d take over the 9 p.m. slot following sharpshooter Keith Olbermann’s nightly Bush smackdown), and the flagging channel could definitely use the ratings goose she’d no doubt provide (though whether they’d retain any journalistic credibility by hiring a decoupager who hangs upside down for a mood boost remains to be seen).

She might not be the most respected name in news, but Rosie is one of the only out lesbians speaking up for issues that matter to us, and for that she deserves our support. Whether you think she’s a blowhard or a voice for the underrepresented masses, I’ll bet you at least acknowledge the importance of visibility.

But it’s not all settled, and the fat lady herself has yet to sing. Perhaps she will divulge a few details during her show tonight at the New York Comedy Festival (she kicks off the event with an evening of stand-up). Stay tuned.

cosmiccowgirl's picture

I love Rosie, but...

this sounds like a really terrible idea. She is not good at making clear-headed arguments about current issues. She's funny. She should stick to being funny and using humor as a venue for change.
damnhippie's picture

i agree

I generally don't think that she is the best at making well-reasoned arguments.  Though I often agree with her overall point of view, I'm often left thinking "I don't think that's the best way to make that point...try approaching it from a different angle." 

But, the cable "news media" (I'll take that out of quotation marks when they devote more than 50% of their airtime to actual news) does love divisive, emotional, and less than reasonable hosts of all ideologies, so I wouldn't be suprised if this happens.  And I'm sure it will have good ratings if it does.

chefgirl's picture

i'm not her biggest fan, but...

i would welcome rosie speaking for our side. she may be a little over the top at times, but it seems all the cable news channels have at least one individual who speaks without a filter and why not an opinionated, mouthy lesbian? i think it's time we had some political representation...
van24's picture

What choice do we have?

When you're of a group desperately looking for recognition, you really don't have a choice as to who represents you when actually do get represented. Rosie is kind of crazy, and although obnoxious and loud, she is right most of the time. I don't buy her 911 conspiracy theories, but she's got the cajones to stand up for the gay community and for that we owe her a lot. It's a double-edged sword. If she wasn't loud and potentially offensive no one would bother listening to her. But, because she's loud and offensive people don't necessarily like her or take her seriously. 

Ellen on the other hand is such a crossover success because she doesn't make waves.

I'd take integrity over friends any day.


Pyewacket's picture

This is too if-y for me.

Rosie has written in her blog time and again that she doesn't need the money regarding anything she does.  So it is too easy for her to close shop if things get tough...as I can easily see it getting...as the Fox "news" channel loves nothing more then someone they can make their viewers afraid of so they can get them to rally against something.

But on the other hand, Fox might end up being MSNBC's and Rosie's biggest advertisers focusing on her on a daily basis...thus getting many curious people to tune in and watch her.

I guess it is just a matter if Rosie hangs tough while being a target and looks at the bigger picture of any publicity being good publicity.

imthey's picture

Rosie...

While I do like Rosie, I'm not sure that MSNBC and a news show would be the right forum for her.
I think that what she is doing now... blogging on her feelings about topics and answering questions from fans and foes alike on a daily basis on her blog is the perfect place for Rosie.
I worry that if she gets on the air and starts to rant about politics on an MSNBC show she might be asking for more trouble than its worth.  I don't want to see Rosie end up in the same place she was when her run with The View ended.
Of course, playing devils advocate, it might also work out just fine for Rosie if she has guests on with whom she is willing to discuss topics intelligently and not let her emotions get the best of her and begin the loud abrasive arguing that we have seen her be capable of.  
Either way the network is likely to be the big winner in this whole thing because two things Rosie seems highly capable of doing is 1. getting ratings and 2. stirring up controversy.


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jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

Rosie

I hate to say it out loud, but I don't think that she's equipped (intellectually or emotionally) to do a political or topical nighttime cable access show let alone one following Keith Olberman and 'Countdown'. I love 'Countdown', btw, the evilest person in the world segment is almost as good as chocolate.
gpawlf's picture

I'm glad you said it first.

I just don't think Rosie's the right person for this.

I'll go further and say that while I know that she's 'all we got', but I don't think that is necessarily a good thing. I'm utterly frightened that this is not going to work out and she's going to be left with egg on her face once again as she is 'representing' us.

Radical Bradacal's picture

me too ...

If MSNBC is giving her a show, that means it's going to be purely for ratings, so the bigger the circus, the more people will watch/scoff/criticize. I don't think she's emotionally or intellectually equipped. If she does do a show, it SHOULD be something like Keith's Countdown, where any guests she has on are reporters about various matters. It shouldn't be anything like The Daily Show (not in terms of content, but in terms of nightly guests) - only Jon Stewart could battle Lynn Cheney and live to tell the tale.  (don't you like how i just restated everything you said? :)

I also agree that the "using what we have" method, as a community, is not the best tactic. We shouldn't cheer on the dark horse, if the dark horse has a broken leg, a blind eye, and can't control the direction of an argument.

Naming is a difficult and time-consuming process; it concerns essences, and it means power. But on wild nights who can call you home? Only the one who knows your name.
[From Oranges are Not the Only Fruit, by Jeanette Winterson]

GrrrlRomeo's picture

Awesome

'Cause the next time Bill O'Reilly does an aweful homophobic segment like that "Lesbian Gangs" crap, there will be someone on a news channel that will actually call "BS"...loudly.

Ping Me's picture

Not for Rosie

Whether or not I agree with her (which I generally am too embarrassed to) I really don't think she has the temperament for "discussion". She lets her emotions rule her mouth and that is never a good idea for anyone. The number one problem with the mainstream media is the marketability. I like FoxNews just because they "report"...the way the new used to be. For MSNBC to add Rosie to their team would only go to further the argument (by others) that they are too far to the left.

As for Rosie being a spokesperson for lesbians in general? I, quite frankly, prefer to do my OWN speaking.

 

And Bill O'Reily is a riot. 

jennifer from pittsburgh's picture

Fox News?

So, Fox News reports, reports completely unbiased nonright-wing nutty news? Actually, the most unbiased news is probably on CNN, but my evil, dirty pleasure is MSNBC because they trash the warmongering fools in a clever fashion. Fox just props up a loaded diaper and then sticks it on air, i.e. O'Reilly.
pecola's picture

Say What?

Ping Me wrote:
I like FoxNews just because they "report"...the way the new used to be.

Um, what? Showtime has programming that's less fictious than Fox News' fair and balanced news reports.

 

Ping Me's picture

So you watch FOX?

Didn't think so....
pecola's picture

Let's Not

You know, I'd have a great deal more respect for Republicans if they just admitted that Fox News is biased.

There's nothing wrong with watching biased programming. I'm a liberal and I enjoy my fair share of it (Countdown with Keith Olbermann, The Daily Show). If Republicans would just admit it, we'd all be free to enjoy our biased programming without having to worry if the other side's really getting a fair shake.

But oh no...instead of embracing reality, Republicans like to wrap themselves in the illusion that Fox is fair and balanced and that liberals are out to smear the only people on TV courageous enough to tell the truth. That illusion, I imagine, is cut from the same magical cloth that fashioned that Mission Accomplished banner on the USS Lincoln and the Emperor's New Clothes.

Give me a break.

Do I watch Fox? Not if I can avoid it, but as it happens, it's sometimes required in my line of work. Trust me, no one's more disappointed by that fact than I am...but thanks for your snark, it'd be endearing if it wasn't so patently wrong.

I'd list all of Fox's transgressions, but really...who has that kind of time? I mean, what with all of us being members of clandestine lesbian gangs...there must be new members to initiate and pink guns yet to be distributed.

GrrrlRomeo's picture

Fox News is Op-Ed

Most news on TV is actually Opinion Editorial. It confuses the public because they think they're actually getting factual news, when they're really just getting someone's opinion on the news. Though I think you're mainly just trying to ruffle feathers because Bill O'Reily walks a thin line between Op-Ed and Hate Speech...one of these days his opinion on gays is going to incite violence against gays. Yeah, that's hilarious.

I'm much more comfortable with Op-Ed shows where it's clear that it's Op-Ed. I get my news from Reuters.

Ping Me's picture

Just the facts please...

What, exactly, is BO's opinion on gays? I watch him regularly and I have NEVER (regardless of what the censored and "mainstream" media would tell you) heard him say anything on the subject. He doesn't like Rosie's saying that 9/11 was an inside job...neither do I. And war-mongers are just a word thrown out by liberals to try to draw attention away from the fact that the war is necessary.

Sorry...I may be the only Republican lesbian but I will stand by the truth...not liberal name-calling.

pussywillow's picture

Rosie - latest

I saw Rosie's show at the Lincoln Center tonight and she mentioned that she's in talks with "a network" for a new show.

It was kind of a freaky evening - her surprise guest was none other than Roseanne Barr who did about  a half hour gig (and I'd forgotten how funny Roseanne's stand-up could be). Then the two of them did about 20 minutes unscripted banter at the end which was pretty lame (shows how important writers are, people!). The funny thing is - Rosie made Roseanne look distinctly sane, which must be a new experience for Roseanne. She (Rosie) went off on her usual rants (including that bizarr-o Building Seven conspiracy theory) and Roseanne kept throwing her lifelines to bring her back to the land of the sane (or medicated).

A news show? Heaven help us - it'd be a bit like Nascar - I'd watch it for the crashes.

Love Pussy xx

Sally10825's picture

Yes, but...

As much as I think it could be a bad idea, precisely because Rosie gets too personal, and takes things too personal, I think she is probably the only lesbian that would have access to that kind of media....  Who knows?  I support her.... It is about time that lesbians are not just the comedians, actors or singers for entertainment only, visible on TV.  A "news" commentary outlet probably will be good if she knows how to manage herself.

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spotticus's picture

MSNBC should give Rachel Maddow a show

I don't think that a cable news format is right for Rosie, for many of the same reason's stated above.  I think Rachel Maddow has the smarts and the chops to headline a news format kind of show in the mold of a Countdown kind of mix between hard news (with interviews with those in the know) and lighter fare. I think she would be a much better representative of our community in a news format than Rosie could ever be. But like someone else stated above, it is all about ratings, and the suits at MSNBC believe people will tune into a shout fest before they will tune in to an informative, thought provoking news program. Our loss.
Molly Bolt's picture

A Shout Fest that features

pecola's picture

From Rosie's Blog

rosie wrote:

msnbc
one hour
live
following keith olbermann

we were close to a deal
almost done
i let it slip in miami
causing panic on the studio end

well
what can u do

2day there is no deal
poof
my career as a pundit is over
b4 it began

just as well
i figure
everything happens for a reason
bashert - as we say

and on we go

iLucifer's picture

...

no comment about Rosie.


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