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Let's get real about "The Real L Word"Hey, have you ever wanted to find out what happens when lesbians stop being polite and start getting real? Probably not, because that’s what you see every morning when you walk into the kitchen and your girlfriend yells at you for finishing the milk. But, thanks to Ilene Chaiken, we are all going to be subjected to the true story of six lesbians who live in Los Angeles and have their lives taped for Showtime.
The news of Ilene’s new lesbian reality series, The Real L Word: Los Angeles, sounded at first like a bizarre, belated April Fool’s joke. Wait, really? No, really? And they called it what? Really? Look, I am all for more lesbian representation in the media. In fact, I ache for it. But down the reality television road lies largely heartbreak and hootchies in hot tubs.
What I don’t understand is why, with all the infinite and infinitely more original options available for lesbian representation on television, Showtime and Ilene have chosen to get into the reality business. And why make it derivative, both of Ilene’s own work and several existing shows? The Real L Word sounds like a bad mashup of The L Word, The Real World, The Real Housewives and Gimme Sugar.
Now, could this turn into a thoughtful look at lesbian life in LA? I suppose. There is potential within the reality format to tell authentic and interesting stories. But “real” is not a word I would readily associate with Ilene’s storytelling style. I mean, we all saw how well her other show ended. Note to future cast members: Don’t go in the pool.
So then why make this series at all? As Ilene told Variety, “Even though we concluded our sixth season of The L Word on Showtime this past March, I believe we are not nearly finished telling our L Word stories.” Hmm, guess that movie version isn’t getting greenlit as quickly as she had hoped.
Also, is anyone else troubled by how readily Ilene blurs the boundaries between the fiction of TLW and the reality of actual lesbians? How can this be “telling our L Word stories” when it should be telling the stories of these six, as-yet-uncast real lesbians? Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch. Look, we deserve fresh, quality shows about lesbians and we deserve them now. Come on, Ilene, we’ve seen this pony. Now show us another trick, if you can. Submitted by on September 1, 2009 - 10:00am. |
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Ugh. This is what she meant by "telling stories"?
Considering Ilene ripped off so much of her own life for the first L series and imagined not just one but both central characters as versions of herself - I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that her next step is an actual reality show.
Looks like she found a way to keep herself employed.
which other one?
Bette
Bette?
Well that's makes sense because the character was the WORST, most stupid representation of a Yale alumnae I've ever seen.
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No She Didn't
"Ilene ripped off so much of her own life for the first L series"
NOT the first series! Many of the Episodes of season one were taken from Ilenes personal experiences.SEASON ONE!
Where have you been? Ilene even admitted that she used L Word fan sites to search for fan fiction to use in an interview with Go Magazine, she also used other derivative works.
A good friend of mine was a victim of Ilene's illicit actions and her stories were used (Marina's return, Jenny's movie, Helena's involvement with that Asian babe) and she did not get credit but she was brave enough to call Ilene out which lead to Chaiken admitting it in the interview with Go Magazine.
This is why I cannot stand Ilene Chaiken, despite allot of you acting like she is some sort of genius when in reality she is nothing but a a fraud who just happens to work in television.
Unlike most jobs if you do a bad job when you work in the television industry the entire world can see your mistakes.
Ironically this is the same industry where people beg for more of a bad product. Well Television, Alcohol, and cigarrettes.
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I watched the L word because
Agreed.
Ilrene's stories sucked because
They WEREN'T "Her" stories nbut derivative works written by viewers that she took and changed. That's why after season three there were completely different stories each season. Ilene's originality faded with season three.
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wow.
When I read the first article about this, I honestly thought it was a joke. I scanned it twice, looking for the little disclaimer. ("Just kidding, did you really think someone would make this bs happen? Suckers...")
And now I feel a little bit like my world has gotten just a shade darker and more depressing, because someone in a position of power actually thinks this would be a good idea.
You Never Know
booooooooo... the l word
booooooooo...
the l word needs to end already! all good things must come to an end!
create NEW STORIES! geez, let the L word rest already. there are other lesbian stories other than the L word.
quite frankly, i dont wanna see anything chaiken related. i already know her cards...and i dont wanna see anymore!
Unless Ilene Chaiken gets a a new source
To take stories from she can't come up with anything new.
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RIP
I think she needs to just let The L Word go ... first there's the spin-off rumours, followed by movie-rumours, and now this.
TLW has had it's time, and yeah, it's still great to watch repeats of all the episodes whilst crying over long-lost ex'es, but just let it RIP.
Hope
I hope it's better than "Gimme Sugar." Even though I am skeptical about "The Real L Word," I will watch it. Maybe during one of the episodes she'll actually tell us what the heck happened to Jenny!!! I still want to know.
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An optimist may see a light where there is none, but why must the pessimist always run to blow it out? -Descartes
I agree, "Gimme Sugar" is a
Unless, that is, the entire
Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch.
I would watch the hell out of that. And I can't stand "reality" TV.
Season 6 of The L Word made me go and sell the four seasons I owned on DVD. I'm gonna needed afadavits signed on penalty of death from at least 5 lesbians whose opinion I trust that this show is beyond miraculous before I think about tuning in.
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Um, I thought she clearly
yeah what happened to all
yeah what happened to all that?? hahaha. it sounds like she has 5 million crazy ideas, and just doesnt know what to do with them so she creates a murder mystery that is completely open-ended...
i've said it once, ill say it a thousand times... im mad at ilene.
Is this a joke?
Is it April fools, already? Am I missing something??
seriously- disaster
Pessimistic
There is a small chance (very small) that this might actually end up being a worthwhile show, but I won't get my hopes up.
Too many red flags here. The fact that Chaiken already seems to think that the so-called 'real' lives of the women on the show will be a continuation of her TLW 'stories' is probably the most ominous sign.
Also, why does everyone in the TV business persist in perpetuating the idea that the only city in the US where one can find more than one or two lesbians is L.A.? At least set the show in a new and different city, FFS. The "L.A. lesbian" meme is getting a bit old now.
I mostly enjoy 'reality' shows where people are doing things that I can't do, so unless these lesbians will be cooking or sewing or dancing, I don't hold out much hope that the show will keep my interest.
Too True
Too true. L.A. has been done already. Besides, who has ever been through anything that was depicted in The L Word?! There is no way 'real' is ever going to be like the made-up show The L Word.
Why not turn it into an MTV TrueLife kind of documentary? Show stories from lesbians from all over the U.S. No wait, make it stories from lesbians from all over the world!
- I would definitely watch that.. that'd be so interesting!
Not again
*groan*
There are days when I wish Ilene Chaiken would take a long walk off a short pier. If this new reality series is as "real" as the L Word was, we'll have true stories of winged lesbians with x-ray vision doing battle with dragons on our TVs every week.
When did Ilene become the be
When did Ilene become the be all and end all in lesbian television?
I'm sorry I'm bitter, I just hate reality tv shows. I'm hoping they will all gradually disappear. And this idea is already being done on Gimme Sugar.
Funny thing about television, I watch it to esacpe reality. I have no interest in watching other people live their lives. When will this horrible television end? I miss the 90's.
i am scared for this...
Amen to that sister! I
My interest left with Dana
It's totally true. Why did she kill Dana? So stupid. Also, the stories were lame. I just watched the L word because uh what else is was there? nothing. i mean to even see women kiss you need to rent a movie. ridiculous.
I am a dreamer and a lover but not a fighter.
Well, that's business isn't
Ahhhh!
Screw you Ilene!!!!
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oh wouldn't leisha hailey be a perfect reality show cast member.
Neat! I'd watch it.
Neat! I'd watch it. THEN I'll judge it.
-I speak in random thoughts
I agree
It sounds pretty good to me.
I bet that most of the people trashing it now, will be tuning in every week just like they did for TLW
Set it in PDX and then
That sounds...
...barftastic. The mere idea of this show is tickling my gag reflex. I'm afraid that an actual viewing might elicit a reaction similar to the oral fountain of pea soup in the Excorcist.
Am I the only sour cherry on the fruitstand?
haaaaahahaa barftastic!
haaaaahahaa barftastic!
so true
Awww Ilene can suck it!
I want to be the next ruthie!
I dont think
this will have a high rate of viewers?. I mean we saw what she did with the L word, which was just fiction, but still would you really trust a producer with another show of the likes?? I certainly wouldnt.
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ugh this could either be an
ugh this could either be an okay show or a horrible show since I mean seriously it's getting based off of The Real World....
Don't argue with my superior wisdom, okay? -Dana Fairbanks <3
This just made my head ache
don't "show us another pony"!
Reality TV
I think that this show would have had a better chance if the title was different. People love reality shows and I am not going to lie, if I have absolutely nothing to watch and nothing to do I will watch it.
She just needs to let the L Word go to the TV Show Heaven and be up there with Queer As Folk and other shows that I can't remember to save my life right now! Oh wait, Save By The Bell:)
"Unless, that is, the entire
If I don't like it I can turn off the TV
"Come on, Ilene, we've seen
"Come on, Ilene, we've seen this pony."
Pony is right (Cockney rhyming slang: Pony and Trap = Crap). I can't think of a worse idea. Apart from Beyonce playing Nan in TTV. Is this woman totally bereft of ideas? Oh wait...
Sorry but despite...
This topic providing an endless opportunity to bash Ilene's deluded visions of grandiosity I cannot expend one more keystro......But I can't resist:
"What I don’t understand is why, with all the infinite and infinitely more original options available for lesbian representation on television, Showtime and Ilene have chosen to get into the reality business."
Because Ilene relies on other people to do her work for her. Simply put she is unable to come up with anything original unless it was created by someone else.
As far as Showtime the network, well I cannot fathom why any living entity would greenlight another of her projects except that insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over but expecting diferent results.
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i kinda like the idea but
No Way
Not even the potential for "hootchies in hot tubs" could suck me in to watch this hot mess.
"Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch." >>>> ONLY then, and ONLY if Sarah Shahi is among those cast members! Guess I'm S.O.L..
Ahh but if it were true
However despite how nearly everyone in the cast claimed to be at least bisexual (Mia, Laurel) or an out lesbian the one who played Alice, well everyone comming out just ain't gonna happen.
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