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Dorothy Snarker

by Dorothy Snarker

Let's get real about "The Real L Word"

Hey, have you ever wanted to find out what happens when lesbians stop being polite and start getting real? Probably not, because that’s what you see every morning when you walk into the kitchen and your girlfriend yells at you for finishing the milk.

But, thanks to Ilene Chaiken, we are all going to be subjected to the true story of six lesbians who live in Los Angeles and have their lives taped for Showtime.

The news of Ilene’s new lesbian reality series, The Real L Word: Los Angeles, sounded at first like a bizarre, belated April Fool’s joke. Wait, really? No, really? And they called it what? Really?

Look, I am all for more lesbian representation in the media. In fact, I ache for it. But down the reality television road lies largely heartbreak and hootchies in hot tubs.

What I don’t understand is why, with all the infinite and infinitely more original options available for lesbian representation on television, Showtime and Ilene have chosen to get into the reality business.

And why make it derivative, both of Ilene’s own work and several existing shows?

The Real L Word sounds like a bad mashup of The L Word, The Real World, The Real Housewives and Gimme Sugar.

Now, could this turn into a thoughtful look at lesbian life in LA? I suppose. There is potential within the reality format to tell authentic and interesting stories. But “real” is not a word I would readily associate with Ilene’s storytelling style.

I mean, we all saw how well her other show ended. Note to future cast members: Don’t go in the pool.

So then why make this series at all? As Ilene told Variety, “Even though we concluded our sixth season of The L Word on Showtime this past March, I believe we are not nearly finished telling our L Word stories.”

Hmm, guess that movie version isn’t getting greenlit as quickly as she had hoped.

Also, is anyone else troubled by how readily Ilene blurs the boundaries between the fiction of TLW and the reality of actual lesbians? How can this be “telling our L Word stories” when it should be telling the stories of these six, as-yet-uncast real lesbians?

Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch.

Look, we deserve fresh, quality shows about lesbians and we deserve them now. Come on, Ilene, we’ve seen this pony. Now show us another trick, if you can.

Letia Ledfoot's picture

Right on...

Also, the entire concept is a bit misleading.  I have to say about 78% (I'm certain that's mathematically incorrect it's probably more) of L Word fans tuned in for the sex.  Reality shows never show the sex, they show a blanket and cut to commercial or go to the next scene in the case of cable television. So it's the L Word without sex and less interesting plots and the we've seen played out in our daily lives...it doesn't matter to me I can't afford showtime anyway.
bananaboat's picture

It's all about the Benjamins

Ugh. This is what she meant by "telling stories"?

Considering Ilene ripped off so much of her own life for the first L series and imagined not just one but both central characters as versions of herself - I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that her next step is an actual reality show.

Looks like she found a way to keep herself employed.

Kirsten's picture

which other one?

obviously jenny, but which other character did she say was a version of herself? just curious...
Gigi's picture

Bette

Bette
SapphicDay's picture

Bette?

Well that's makes sense because the character was the WORST, most stupid representation of a Yale alumnae I've ever seen. 

Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

SapphicDay's picture

No She Didn't

"Ilene ripped off so much of her own life for the first L series"

NOT the first series! Many of the Episodes of season one were taken from Ilenes personal experiences.SEASON ONE!

Where have you been?  Ilene even admitted that she used L Word fan sites to search for fan fiction to use in an interview with Go Magazine, she also used other derivative works. 

A good friend of mine was a victim of Ilene's illicit actions and her stories were used (Marina's return, Jenny's movie, Helena's involvement with that Asian babe) and she did not get credit but she was brave enough to call Ilene out which lead to Chaiken admitting it in the interview with Go Magazine. 

This is why I cannot stand Ilene Chaiken, despite allot of you acting like she is some sort of genius when in reality she is nothing but a a fraud who just happens to work in television.

Unlike most jobs if you do a bad job when you work in the television industry the entire world can see your mistakes.

Ironically this is the same industry where people beg for more of a bad product.  Well Television, Alcohol, and cigarrettes.

Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

7th-key's picture

I watched the L word because

I watched the L word because the cast was cool. Ilene's "stories" sucked.
dntelfan's picture

Agreed.

That sums it all up. If the actresses weren't so great, I seriously doubt even lesbians would've suffered through it!
SapphicDay's picture

Ilrene's stories sucked because

They WEREN'T "Her" stories nbut derivative works written by  viewers that she took and changed.  That's why after season three there were completely different stories each season. Ilene's originality faded with season three.

Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

EggFace's picture

wow.

When I read the first article about this, I honestly thought it was a joke. I scanned it twice, looking for the little disclaimer. ("Just kidding, did you really think someone would make this bs happen? Suckers...")

And now I feel a little bit like my world has gotten just a shade darker and more depressing, because someone in a position of power actually thinks this would be a good idea.

slj1965's picture

You Never Know

Since it is on Showtime, you may get the scenes you really want to see.  Showtime doesn't hold back on Big Brother After Dark. 
Anonymous's picture

booooooooo... the l word

booooooooo...

the l word needs to end already! all good things must come to an end!

create NEW STORIES! geez, let the L word rest already. there are other lesbian stories other than the L word.

quite frankly, i dont wanna see anything chaiken related. i already know her cards...and i dont wanna see anymore!

SapphicDay's picture

Unless Ilene Chaiken gets a a new source

To take stories from she can't come up with anything new. 

Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

Eeee's picture

RIP

I think she needs to just let The L Word go ... first there's the spin-off rumours, followed by movie-rumours, and now this.

TLW has had it's time, and yeah, it's still great to watch repeats of all the episodes whilst crying over long-lost ex'es, but just let it RIP.

Cerulean Skii's picture

Hope

I hope it's better than "Gimme Sugar." Even though I am skeptical about "The Real L Word," I will watch it.  Maybe during one of the episodes she'll actually tell us what the heck happened to Jenny!!! I still want to know.

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An optimist may see a light where there is none, but why must the pessimist always run to blow it out? -Descartes

Gigi's picture

I agree, "Gimme Sugar" is a

I agree, "Gimme Sugar" is a total snooz fest & I'll usually watch anything w. lesbians &/or a lesbian story line. I can't even be bothered w/that one though. Like you I probably will also tune in for at least one ep. out of curiousity. & I also would  like to know what happened to Jenny..although I am 99.9% convinced she committed suicide. :( But yeah that was part of why I was hoping they would go through w/the movie b.c I was hoping then we'd get our explanation. Bleh.
Revolos55's picture

Unless, that is, the entire

Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch.

 

I would watch the hell out of that. And I can't stand "reality" TV. 

Season 6 of The L Word made me go and sell the four seasons I owned on DVD. I'm gonna needed afadavits signed on penalty of death from at least 5 lesbians whose opinion I trust that this show is beyond miraculous before I think about tuning in.

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"Normal is Boring" -Me 

Painted_Jezebel's picture

Um, I thought she clearly

Um, I thought she clearly did *not* have more stories to tell. That's why there was a murder mystery, a dance contest, Shane became a super model and then it was never mentioned again, there was a vampire, Shane became a mum and then it was never mentioned again, Bette slept with a student and it was never mentioned again and Jenny killed a dog and it was never mentioned again. The woman is OUT of ideas, and there's no shame in that, she has enough money, could she stop flogging a dead horse, please?
MizEloise's picture

yeah what happened to all

yeah what happened to all that?? hahaha. it sounds like she has 5 million crazy ideas, and just doesnt know what to do with them so she creates a murder mystery that is completely open-ended...

 

i've said it once, ill say it a thousand times... im mad at ilene.

Andi Mayo's picture

Is this a joke?

 

Is it April fools, already? Am I missing something??

dragonlady07's picture

seriously- disaster

seriously- disaster
jamlawgirl's picture

Pessimistic

There is a small chance (very small) that this might actually end up being a worthwhile show, but I won't get my hopes up.

Too many red flags here. The fact that Chaiken already seems to think that the so-called 'real' lives of the women on the show will be a continuation of her TLW 'stories' is probably the most ominous sign.

Also, why does everyone in the TV business persist in perpetuating the idea that the only city in the US where one can find more than one or two lesbians is L.A.? At least set the show in a new and different city, FFS. The "L.A. lesbian" meme is getting a bit old now.

I mostly enjoy 'reality' shows where people are doing things that I can't do, so unless these lesbians will be cooking or sewing or dancing, I don't hold out much hope that the show will keep my interest.

Femm's picture

Too True

Too true. L.A. has been done already. Besides, who has ever been through anything that was depicted in The L Word?! There is no way 'real' is ever going to be like the made-up show The L Word.

Why not turn it into an MTV TrueLife kind of documentary? Show stories from lesbians from all over the U.S. No wait, make it stories from lesbians from all over the world!

- I would definitely watch that.. that'd be so interesting!

dogwood's picture

Not again

*groan*

There are days when I wish Ilene Chaiken would take a long walk off a short pier. If this new reality series is as "real" as the L Word was, we'll have true stories of winged lesbians with x-ray vision doing battle with dragons on our TVs every week.  

Candice's picture

When did Ilene become the be

When did Ilene become the be all and end all in lesbian television?

I'm sorry I'm bitter, I just hate reality tv shows. I'm hoping they will all gradually disappear. And this idea is already being done on Gimme Sugar.

Funny thing about television, I watch it to esacpe reality. I have no interest in watching other people live their lives. When will this horrible television end? I miss the 90's.

 

dancelikeamom's picture

i am scared for this...

this woman, ilene-love-myself-too-much chaiken, is crazy...and not in a good way.  she is holding on for dear life to this "l word utopia" that frankly ended for most fans with the death of dana.  though calling it a utopia is me being EXTREMELY nice--we all know this show was no lesbian six feet under--the stories were always all over the place...she had her hand in every jar of that show...she used jenny as a way to give us "her gift with words"...woman, we got that you were living vicariously through jenny...DID YOU THINK WE WOULDN'T NOTICE???  ilene's writing and direction was based on her ego and not good story-telling...this show, i fear, will be just an extension of what ilene/jenny--they are basically the same person in my eyes--couldn't portray in a insightful and realistic light the first time around.  it will be melodramatic, it will exploitative, and it will ultimately paint us in a manner that is less ellen page and more lindsay lohan.  we need more substance not ilene's superficiality.   
Gigi's picture

Amen to that sister! I

Amen to that sister! I totally agree w/ the Dana comment. I just re-watch Seasons 1 & 2  over & over b/c I actually thought it was a great show then...but it totally died w/ Dana...there were still some good moments here & there but it was never the same:(
Sherika's picture

My interest left with Dana

 It's totally true. Why did she kill Dana? So stupid. Also, the stories were lame. I just watched the L word because uh what else is was there? nothing. i mean to even see women kiss you need to rent a movie. ridiculous.

I am a dreamer and a lover but not a fighter.

ninja309's picture

Well, that's business isn't

Well, that's business isn't it?  Come up with a product, if it becomes popular ride it until it drops.  Ilene's made more money off this concept than most of us will ever see, so she's going to beat us over the head with her idea until none of us tune in anymore.  Is that going to happen?  Hell no...we all love to stare at the traffic accident when we drive by.  I'll watch.  How many other lezzie shows have we to watch at the moment?  Until somebody else gets brave and comes up with something else, this is what we have....will the next Ilene Chaiken please step forward and please bring some better scripts with you...
jordan-writes's picture

Ahhhh!

Amanda Kay! :)'s picture

oh wouldn't leisha hailey be a perfect reality show cast member.

A lesbian that people are actually interested in, instead of some stupid, trashy, fame-grubing lesbians (Gimme Sugar?).  I would love this show if the stars are lesbians that lesbians actually like.
Luna's picture

Neat! I'd watch it.

Neat! I'd watch it. THEN I'll judge it.

 

-I speak in random thoughts

Krystyn's picture

I agree

It sounds pretty good to me.

 

I bet that most of the people trashing it now, will be tuning in every week just like they did for TLW

alley hector's picture

Set it in PDX and then

Set it in PDX and then you'll have a show...
Mesocyclone's picture

That sounds...

...barftastic. The mere idea of this show is tickling my gag reflex.  I'm afraid that an actual viewing might elicit a reaction similar to the oral fountain of pea soup in the Excorcist.

Am I the only sour cherry on the fruitstand?

dragonlady07's picture

haaaaahahaa barftastic!

haaaaahahaa barftastic!

 

so true

babinxd's picture

Awww Ilene can suck it!

Awww Ilene can suck it!
Swizzlelove's picture

I want to be the next ruthie!

Awesome, I want to sign up how do I audition....I love all those reality shows!  It'll be great!
Michie87's picture

I dont think

this will have a high rate of viewers?. I mean we saw what she did with the L word, which was just fiction, but still would you really trust a producer with another show of the likes?? I certainly wouldnt.

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Becca's picture

ugh this could either be an

ugh this could either be an okay show or a horrible show since I mean seriously it's getting based off of The Real World....

Don't argue with my superior wisdom, okay? -Dana Fairbanks <3

crzyamazing's picture

This just made my head ache

This just made my head ache worse >.<

 

mildlypeeledpotatoes's picture

don't "show us another pony"!

no no, please don't "show us another pony"! step aside and let someone talented take your place.... the co-authors of the L Word, for example....
lscole2425's picture

Reality TV

I think that this show would have had a better chance if the title was different.  People love reality shows and I am not going to lie, if I have absolutely nothing to watch and nothing to do I will watch it. 

 She just needs to let the L Word go to the TV Show Heaven and be up there with Queer As Folk and other shows that I can't remember to save my life right now!  Oh wait, Save By The Bell:)

carmbridge's picture

"Unless, that is, the entire

"Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch." Yes please!!!
Saradove's picture

If I don't like it I can turn off the TV

Well, I don't usually like reality shows, but I'm sure I'll at least watch the first episode to see how it goes.   
surfer_rosa's picture

"Come on, Ilene, we've seen

"Come on, Ilene, we've seen this pony."

Pony is right (Cockney rhyming slang: Pony and Trap = Crap). I can't think of a worse idea. Apart from Beyonce playing Nan in TTV. Is this woman totally bereft of ideas? Oh wait...

SapphicDay's picture

Sorry but despite...

This topic providing an endless opportunity to bash Ilene's deluded visions of grandiosity I cannot expend one more keystro......But I can't resist:

"What I don’t understand is why, with all the infinite and infinitely more original options available for lesbian representation on television, Showtime and Ilene have chosen to get into the reality business." 

Because Ilene relies on other people to do her work for her.  Simply put she is unable to come up with anything original unless it was created by someone else.

As far as Showtime the network, well I cannot fathom why any living entity would greenlight another of her projects except that insanity is defined as doing the same thing over and over but expecting diferent results.

Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It. 

rainbow_flowers's picture

i kinda like the idea but

i wish they would do six lesbians from different places, not all from l.a., i think they should do some in small towns where lesbians arent really accepted to show what life is like for them, cause isnt l.a. kinda accepting of lesbians/gays, jus my two cents
garanger's picture

No Way

Not even the potential for "hootchies in hot tubs" could suck me in to watch this hot mess.

"Unless, that is, the entire L Word cast is about to come out as lesbians and let us follow them around with cameras. Now that is something I might actually watch."  >>>> ONLY then, and ONLY if Sarah Shahi is among those cast members! Guess I'm S.O.L..

SapphicDay's picture

Ahh but if it were true

However despite how nearly everyone in the cast claimed to be at least bisexual (Mia, Laurel) or an out lesbian the one who played Alice, well everyone comming out just ain't gonna happen. 

Technology Will Lead To The Demise Of Civilization As We Know It.