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Women who fake itI recently saw a trailer for a small British movie that is due out this June called Miss Conception. This film has all the makings of your typical British comedy: There's driving on the wrong side of the road, people drinking tea … Mia Kirshner and Heather Graham. Crikey! Mia and Heather are British? Well, no. But if I didn't have it on good authority (via a quick trip to Google) that Ms. Graham was born in Wisconsin and Ms. Kirshner was born in Canada, I could see how an unsuspecting person would think that they were in fact from across the pond just by watching the trailer. A millisecond into the preview, we hear both Mia and Heather sporting fairly impressive faux-English accents. It is obvious to those of us in the entertainment know (or those who have access to Google) that these women are faking it and are actually from North America, but that knowledge aside — do you find their accents believable?
The shock of hearing Jenny Schecter speak with an accent got me thinking: Who else in the movie biz has mastered the art of British speak? If blindfolded and left only to depend on sound, which actors would dupe me into thinking I was talking to a gal from jolly olde England? Here are some potential winners: Renee Zellweger The woman is Bridget Jones. Do I need to say more? She makes you want to incorporate words such as "mum," "knickers" and "shag" into your daily vernacular.
Gwyneth Paltrow Her accents in Emma and Sliding Doors and were flawless. She even won an Academy Award for her role in Shakespeare in Love, where she played a young woman in 16th-century London who falls in love with young Will Shakespeare. Gwyneth has become the go-to American actress to perform English roles. Given her dead-on accents, having a home in England and being married to English rocker Chris Martin, she might even have some people fooled that she actually is British.
Natalie Portman In V For Vendetta, Natalie Portman plays Evey, a girl who becomes a freedom fighter against a corrupt British government. During her time on that movie, Portman said in interviews that she worked for months with a dialect coach and became so obsessed with sounding like she was English that she stayed in her new accent even off the set.
Portman then took her linguistic abilities to another level — and time period — during this year's The Other Boleyn Girl. Who could blame King Henry VIII for not being able to choose between these two sisters? Decisions, decisions. Which leads me to my next nominee … Scarlett Johansson Scarlett also starred in The Other Boleyn Girl as well as Girl With a Pearl Earring, and in both period pieces she plays, well, the "girl." Her deep, raspy voice that we have come to know in film (and now music) vanishes into a soft English accent when she tightens her corset.
Lindsay Lohan OK, now before you say anything, let me make my case. I know she has only been in one movie (1998's The Parent Trap) in which she had an English accent. And I know we have now come to appreciate her for such all-American cinematic gems as I Know Who Killed Me and Just My Luck, but I listed her here for two reasons:
So what do you think? Have any of your fave faux-British performances not made the list? Submitted by on May 8, 2008 - 11:12am. |
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Wow! Once again we have a
Wow! Once again we have a British movie, with non-British actors doing stereotypically 'upper-class' British accents. You can always tell the faux accents coz they're all the same!! I honestly don't think I have ever met anyone who actually talks like that!
But to give them their dues, Cate Blanchett and Gwyneth Paltrow are both convincing, and I'll back you on the Lohan, for an 11 year old she was awesome.
Piper Perabo
Piper Perabo did a pretty good job, faking an english accent, in Imagine me & you ! (she's not english, right ?)
Piper Perabo had a Faux Brit
Physical Pain ...
is inflicted upon my ear every time I hear North Americans going for British Accent gold in a film. The ONE exception has to be Meryl Streep (who can do ANY accent) ...
there is no REASON to use North American actors for a film shot in Britain. Unless they're playing American/Canadians in said British movie. Film does not lend itself to the suspension of disbelief that theatre is soooo privileged to have ...
Aussies/Scots/Irish tend to fair better because while the vowel sounds are different, they use their mouth/tongue (pull your head out of the gutter) in similar ways ... it all has to do with the use of the mouth and the tongue ... Americans/Canadians use their tongue/mouth/jaw in TOTALLY different ways than our UK ancestors ... it's NOT just about changing vowel/consonant sounds. It's part of the reason British actors think we're so vulgar ... we use a much greater portion of our mouth and tongue to speak ... like "barn doors" (I once read that in an article about this very topic).............
Now - that being said - is it believable to most American film go-ers? sure. Will it sell? probably. And inevitably, isn't that the whole point?
Speak what we feel not what we ought to say...
"The ONE exception has to
"The ONE exception has to be Meryl Streep (who can do ANY accent) ..."
I beg to differ. In the Lindy Chamberlain movie her accent varied at times between New Zealander and Brit, with some scenes I do agree quite convincingly Australian. There's a scene where she screams "We're talking about my baby, not some objict!" "Ob-jict" is sort of NZ-ish, and even on that score not too convincing, but definitely not Aussie. But then I think an Australian accent is extremely difficult to emulate: she gave herself away because she enunciated words rather clearly, whereas we tend to swallow syllables, and also we tend to inflect upwards at the end of sentences.
Her British accent seems very good to me, but I'm not in a position to know, really.
meryl is a god
why can't Hollywood producers
cast English people for English roles and not always for the baddie or the gay best friend!
seriously the only person i can think of who had a good english accent in a movie was piper perabo in imagine me and you and that's cos her character was intended to be the type of english person who has that accent!
all the rest might sound vauguely British but no one in britain actually sounds like that unless you live in a massive country house in the middle of nowhere, or you're the queen!
Bridget Jones was definetly the worst as she had all the right dialogue for a working class girl who drinks, smokes and is unmaried (obviously generalising horribly, sorry) but her accent was way too upper class!
ugh Hollywood pisses me off in that sense!
and BTW lindsay Lohan didn't do an english accent in the parent trap, atleast it didn't sound like one to me, also hayley mills did a pretty good american accent when she was in the parent trap, why can't it work both ways!
I totally agree Yael!
I totally agree Yael! However, I do have to point out that one half of the twins the Lohan portrayed was British. OK, I have to clarify that! The twins had an English mother and American father, one grew up in America and so had an American accent, the other in England so had an English accent.
I know people respond to the 'I wish they would cast Brits as Brits' with 'its acting' and 'plenty of Brits play American', which is true, but
a/ there are so many more American movies, its a much more lucrative industry, so there are plenty of Americans playing Americans, as well as Brits playing Americans as the only roles going.
b/ There are so many undiscovered British talents who could have these roles, we don't need big American names (I know they cast them for the box office, but grrr!! Renee Zellweger should not be Beatrix Potter!!) For that matter there are plenty of well known Brits.
c/ I know it's acting, but it's not realistic, its not convincing, and it's downright frustrating!!
Hehe! This argument comes up so often! I personally have major issues with Renee Zellweger, but I shall not get into that!
Heather graham was
and Oxbridge
I don't know who told you
I don't know who told you that, but its fundamentally untrue...
Natalie Portman was TERRIBLE in V is for Vendetta and not much better in The Other Boleyn Sister.
English accents
I thought Piper Perabo did a decent job too
...but again it was the super cut-glass rendering with a wee bit too much enunciation to make it totally natural. Mia and Heather seem to be erring on this side as well. As did Gwyneth Paltrow. I thought Natalie Portman was pretty good in V for Vendetta myself.
Of course, I'm not a pom myself, but I did live in London for nearly 5 years.
As for what someone else said about the Oxbridge accent being an assumed one, that's reasonably true (although there is actually a small percentage of Brits that grow up speaking that way - perhaps they're the children of Oxbridge academics, heh).
But actors seem not to be as natural with it being taught RP as native speakers - for example, Gwyneth Paltrow sounded more posh than Joseph Fiennes in Shakespeare in Love, which may have been deliberate, but then she sounded more clipped and "cut-glass" than Judi Dench as well. Oops.
You're all forgetting Jodie!!!!
In Anna and the King Jodie did a very good English accent, although as usual it was posh English rather than the rather more common way that most of us speak, but I'd say 10 out of 10.
Piper Perabo was good too, but Heather and Mia, not so good. That said I'd probably watch it anyway!!!
Kaz
a little out of left field...
...but did anyone notice that they spelled Mia Kirshner's name wrong in that trailer?? They spelled it as "Kirschner", adding an unnecessary "c". Random.
And personally, I'm a little ambivalent towards the whole faking accent thing as long as it works. And most fakers I've heard sound alright -- then again I'm not exposed to accents everyday so take it as you will.
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It depends on the audience
I have two comments, 1: have
hmmm
Oops!
RP is easy
It is easy to speak with received pronunciation (i.e. posh) but what American can do a convincing regional British accent? I can't think of anyone.
As for the complaints about taking away British jobs what about the Americans who missed out on Sarah Connor, Jamie Sommers and Chuck? Hang on, maybe that's why Heather and Mia are in this film...
any opinions
I thought it was terrible
What about...
Angelina Jolie in the Tomb Raider movies. I know, I know; not exactly cinematic marvels, but I thought her accent was pretty convincing. Or, I think it was...I wasn't exactly there for the dialogue.
Fair attempt
Piper
Accents
Well as a British person I can say that from that trailer those accents were not amazing. Although I'd have to see the whole film to make a proper judgement.
They seemed a little Over The Top to be honest. Doing the typical southern posh accent that all american actors seem to use when playing someone english.
Id love to see someone do a northern accent, like a proper yorkshire accent, or a chav accent. That would be quite funny actually 'Dat iz ill! Init Boss'. Ha Ha Ha, Anyway yeah, Natalie Portmans accent in V For Vendetta was gud, Kudos to her.
Please stop using a posh accent!
I'd kill to have an American actor use a black country or maybe a scousers accent when pretending to be english instead of the stereotypical posh accent. I've never heard anyone speak like that and am thinking it's called 'Queens English' for a reason... because only the Queen talks like that!
English accents by Americans...
make me giggle and a lot of the time get on my nerves. It seems that only one accent is ever attempted - the stereotypical upper class...and quite frankly very few people speak like that over here...i think it would be awesome
funnyif someone would attempt a geordie accent...or even a scouse accent no matter how annoying...although that could be a step too far...but still another accent other than the upper class!Geordie
I have just gotta say NO WAY
I'd love to hear them having
Personally I think some do sound alright but there are a lot of the "posh" rather than regional accents, though I also agree with one of the posters above that it's probably cos it's easiest to do and for non English audiences to understand, I mean I live here and sometimes have trouble understanding what some people are saying!! ha ha
I'm sorry but these women
I'm sorry but these women cannot fake a british accent. Sorry to dissapoint but about 5 people over here talk like that and they were probably American to start with :p I was expecting good things and then it was just another 'la di da this is how british people talk' accent.
Bridget Jones is the WORST!!! haha I cringed all through that.
People are saying Piper was good in IM&Y......not so much, she was a bit la di da too.
Watch a British movie and see how far from our accents it really is.
My two qualifications for posting on this are:
a) I'm British
and
b) I have ears.
I can't say that I'm particularly impressed with either of the accents. Mia sounds like she's attempting an impression of Rachel Shelley playing Helena and Heather Graham is, well, Heather Graham. (For the record, I'm not always convinced that Rachel sounds British when doing that role and I know she is)! I love Mia but fear this may not be her finest hour. The main reason for that is; another film about breeding!! Why!?! Seriously, Hollywood and BFI, women are interested in more than spawning.
Apologies for mini rant, but all this film/TV time spent on the breed or not to breed subject is making me irksome.
I'm British, it doesn't sound authentic to me!
It doesn't sound authentic! No one actually speaks like that here. If you do have a posh upper class accent in England it's more sort of... chirping the high notes... some upper class people sound like they have marbles in their mouth.
I think the fake ones are more fake-received pronunciation.. so middle class accents, fake accents always drawl a lot more than these ones too, so you can tell... Or maybe that's just me?
I'm British too, so maybe that's why...
I have to say it bothers me most when they have American actresses for English writers - something to do with the inherent English-ness of English literature... I mean American literature has its own gems, I'm not claiming English literature is better but... it's English. It's in the name!
I would say the same about an Englishman playing Robbie Burns (British, yes, not English) or John Steinbeck. Please leave Jane Austen and Beatrix Potter to the English women, please! We do have some decent actresses here too!
as much as i love natalie
i must agree
on v for vendetta (i really liked it regardless) her accent didnt quite hit the spot. i do really think she is wonderfull though on the whole. and super duper hot.
i agree with other posts - why must a brittish accent be an upperclass one? there are so many accents in the uk for such a relatively small area.
i am scottish (well 3/4s scottish) and the best fake scottish accent i have heard was jonny lee miller in trainspotting.
on a random subject the other day i did an english accent and was told with suprise that i sounded british. britain is not just england!!!!!!
rant over
Gawd, that looks like a crap movie...
I'm not convinced, and I am not even a native English speaker.
I will just echo what many have already said before me: Why can't they just cast British actors in British roles?
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bad accents
I'm sorry but that film looks awful....and the accents aren't a whole lot more impressive.In fact,they suck (sorry Mia) I appreciate that they're making an effort and that the movie isn't necessarily aimed at the British market but still, it is painful to think that a great proportion of Americans (not the enlightened crowd to be found on this site,of course!) thinks we all sound like we've got pokers up our bums.Regional dialects and accents are so common nowadays that to hear this generic 'English' accent passed off as the norm is ignorant and insulting. I agree,the Brits are also guilty of butchering the American accent (although Hugh Laurie surely makes up for a lot of crimes,no?) but I fail to understand why production companies can't employ the real deal,a la Rachel Weisz or Kate Winslet.
rant over . . .
agree with like everybody
Whenever anyone who isn't British attempts a British accent it just...it doesn't work haha. All they come out with is an Oxbridge accent, they just sound like the Princes and Harry Potter. I swear, as much as i adore Harry Potter, it does decieve the world into thinking most British people sound like that.
If people wanna find out what the largest majority of British people sound like, watch shows that are set within a region. Most British people have a regional accent - Cockney, Scouser, Geordie, Brummie, Manc etc, or, like me, just plain farmer-like northern ha.
That aint no Etch-a-Sketch...
Turnabout
How about all the Brits, Aussies and Kiwis doing the American accents? (not all women)
Michelle Ryan in Bionic Woman
Hugh Laurie in House
Julian McMahon Charmed and Nip Tuck
Lucy Lawless Xena
Those are quickies I thought of, I'm sure there are more
I've always been quite
Natalie Portman
To be honest her accent kinda annoyed me in V for Vendetta. I always think that Americans seem to act slightly more 'proper' or stiff when they act British and ALWAYS sound sooo posh, when it's not even necessary for the character. Piper Perabo was probably the best out of the list. I suppose her posh accent could be forgiven considering that the character seemed to be a bit anyway, but why is it that British people in movies are always portrayed to be upper-middle class-ish?
why??
Bad Girls accents?
I'm guessing
I'm guessing, besides the Scottish of Helen of course, mostly diffirent accents from London. Definitely cockney. There has also been some Irish and Welsh I believe. But there are just so many accents in the UK. It's unbelievable. Every small region has a diffirent accent. You should look up the guy on youtube who has made video's doing all kinds of accents from Britain. (can't remember his name) Very funny!
http://www.youtube.com/BetweenThaLines
Thanks, I enjoyed that :-)
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http://www.youtube.com/user/worldaccordingtodunk
British accent
I'd love to see an american try to impersonate (or even hear) a glaswegian accent, a north wales accent, a scouse or geordie accent.
Maybe it's because all they see is the hugh Grants and Helen Baxendale's (Emily in friends) in america and don't know that theres an accent outside of upper class london.
in regards to the turnabout comment, I think Hugh Laurie does a cracking job on house.
I'm not sure about them
Hate it
Hate it when Americans are doing an English accent. It sounds so unnatural. I'm not from the UK, but watch all kinds of English things all the time. Even on a rare occasion when someone does speak with the posh British accent, it never sounds like the way the Americans do it. I don't really know how to describe it. I must say there are some actors who are doing quite a good job, for example although I hate Renee Zelweger, I think her accent is quite good in BJD. And there are some more actors who can do it, can't really think of any right now though. Piper Perabo's accent sucked though! Funny enough the other way around it's not the case at all. I guess it's because most British actors actually studied acting and have to learn a lot of accents, but I can't be sure... Brits all the way! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/BetweenThaLines