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Women read comics. Any questions?

Brace yourselves. Blake Petit, columns editor of ComiXtreme.com, published a startling finding about women and comic books.

"I want to talk about what women would want out of comics now. And here's the thing I think will surprise people … women want exactly the same thing as men: engaging characters, intelligent stories and great art."

All together now: Duh.

Comments like that used to irritate me. Now they just make me tired. I mean, next we'll read that women like food that tastes good and cars that get good gas mileage. And breathe oxygen.

Granted, many, if not most, comic books are written for men, probably because drawing babes with boobs is a whole lot simpler than developing a compelling story. (Not that I'm against babes with boobs.) But AfterEllen.com makes a point of letting you know when we find good comics that we think you'll like. Whenever I have a chance to spend more time in my comic store than it takes to pick up my subscriptions, I find new titles that appeal to me. And more are on the way.

I'm eagerly looking forward to Echo, by Strangers in Paradise creator Terry Moore.

Moore is keeping mum about the specifics of Echo, but he posted a five-page preview on his blog that already has me hooked. And I have my fingers crossed for a lesbian character to pop up eventually. Moore is also taking over writing duties for Runaways and Spider-Man Loves Mary Jane. The Moore, the merrier.

Manga is normally not my thing, but Sorcerers and Secretaries, by Amy Kim Ganter, is a clever, two-issue book series about Nicole, who writes fantasy stories inspired by her dreams. As the story progresses, her fantasy world seems to be coming to life. Sorcerers is a teen title, but hey, I never claimed to be mature.

I just made my first venture into Yuri lesbian-themed manga and anime, with Yuri Monogatari, Book 5, from Erica Friedman's ALC Publishing. I liked some stories more than others and, although I doubt I'm going to become a Yuri fanatic, this was a good overview of the genre.

My favorite recent discovery is The Foundation, written by John Rozum. The premise is that a secret organization has access to unpublished prophecies of Nostradamus and uses this knowledge of the future to protect the world. It's very X-Files — and I'm hoping for a Scully to emerge soon.

The Guardian recently did a story on several trends in the comic industry that indicate TPTB have noticed that women read comics. I'm especially interested in checking out some of the titles in DC's new Minx imprint, which targets teenage girls. And I always make a point of checking out titles recommended by Girl Wonder, Friends of Lulu and Sequential Tart.

Maybe it's big news to Mr. Petit, but I think women and comics go together like, well, women and women. What's in your comic pile? Have you discovered any new titles lately? What do you read that we might not have heard of?

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  • Sigrid Aalto's picture

    Kabuki by David Mack

    I read Kabuki lately. A secret organisation composed of women specially trained. 

    It has a very partucular style as there no "lineal evolution" along the volumes, the story is told from memories, dreams.. I like it a lot..Its very well written.

    KabukiKabuki 

    chicklet_interrupted's picture

    Moore And Marvel

    Yeah!! Moore is taking over the runaways!
    renatalie's picture

    Duh... how many more times will we say that?

    Well, comics have always been a huge passion for me... but I'm not surprised to see that the fact that women read them is big news for some people... tsc tsc... how come I always feel like the overlooked minority?

    I've read a lot of the common DC and Marvel titles, but I've moved on from that a few years ago... Then I went on to find some mangas like Vagabond, which is really well made and worth checking out, about the history of Musashi, a famous samurai.

    Any thing Frank Miller does is pretty much always incredible also, from Dark Knight to Sin City. All well made and well written. I LOVE his style.

    Sandman is also a good story, if you're into some surreal stuff. I particularly love the character Death...

    Strangers in Paradise is a must see to anyone who likes platonic love stories and amazing artwork. Plus it doesnt hurt that the lesbian character, Katchoo, is hot.

    My favorite one at the moment is Alison Bechel's biweekly strip Dykes to Watch out For. It's just great. Her autobiographical graphic novel Fun Home also blew me away. The most amazing thing about her, besides her great style and narrative, is that she always incorporates political satyre within the stories.

    So, I guess what I want to say with this huge post is YES we do exist!

    Ms. Junior's picture

    Fun Home rocks!

    I concur with renatalie, Fun Home is amazing.
    lunakiss's picture

    Womyn aand Comics

     What planet these men live on that womyn and girls don't read comics?

    I wish I knew some,but I don't. The Sorcerers Secretaries seem like it'll be fun comic to read. The Foundation, oh I can't wait to get my hands on that .  

     

    "Do I have to dial 9 to call 911?"( This  quote was shared to me by a nurse who was talking about her then 14 year old  daughter who asked her  this while the father was suffering a heat stroke)

    afterdark69's picture

    WOMEN READ COMICS?!?! Wait...wait...women can read?!?!?

    I am always confronted by the look of awe and gaping mouths whenever I mention the fact that I read comic books and graphic novels. Of course the gaping audience is not only male but some straight women who think it beneath them and very immature for a “lady” to do. All I can say to them is stuff it and what a shame since it’s their loss after all, so there! :)

    After sounding sooo mature and there for advocating my cause I shall share with you a few of my fav comics, manga and novels….

    Well my all time favorite character in comic books is Withcblade. Hot, very strong and can handle her self in any situation….plus she’s hot…like really hot! Also Danger Girl, three hot women who are agents…no need to say more.

    As for Manga, I’m reading Gunshmith Cats which I adore, Blood the last Vampire which was also made in anime with UNBELIEVABLE graphics, and Azu Manga Daioh….its cute and funny also made in Anime series and is a bit yuri.

    Graphic Novels there are many. Recent favorites include Bite Club by Howard Chaykin and David Tischman's with a bi kick ass vampire mob boss….just sweet. It was six short stories but now its out as one whole book….and I’m now reading Arkham Asylum by Grant Morrison and Dave McKean….the illustrations are breathtaking.

    Well I could go on for a while but won’t…. So I’m just saying for all those haters out there…don’t kick it till you’ve tried it…

    Genevieve Grenier's picture

    what i would recommend is...

    Currently I'm reading:
     
    Peter David's Fallen Angel
    The Runaways
    Catwoman
    Birds of Prey
    Wonder Woman (now that Gail Simone is on board)
    Xena
    Red Sonja
    Painkiller Jane
    Buffy The Vampire Slayer volume 8 

     

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    ladypythia's picture

    Comics

    I like Witch Girl Bunny. It features a Lesbian witch, Bunny, who is the main character and her Drag King/vampire girlfriend, Dean. And a crazy sexy faerie who wants Bunny for herself. It's super cute.

    Also, Alan Moore's Promethea is excellent too. There is some Lesbian themes, but it's more about the occult and Kabbalah.

    CaliSky3's picture

    Comics

    I love them. I always have. I especially love comic stories with characters I know. I use to read the X Files. Ha-ha... I was into Batwoman, before they took away the lesbian(ness) about her and stopped featuring her at all really. BUT other than that, if there were lesbian characters more often with an actual story line and didn't make them look like boys i'd buy them all! -Rachel
    latinwinter's picture

    Yes women love comics!

    One of my good (and surprisingly straight) female friends absolutely loves all things Vertigo, and turned me on to Y: The Last Man a few years ago. She also gave me copies of Sin City long before the movie came out, and I briefly got into Fables, but haven't really branched out since. I'll have to look these (above mentioned) comics up. Thanks!

    deathbyblonde's picture

    GhostWorldGhostWorldGhostWorld

    GhostWorldGhostWorldGhostWorldGhostWorldGhostWorld, my absolute favorite comic ever.  I also like David Boring and other books by the same author.  Also, anything by Adrian Tomine (his drawings are so beautiful), Persepolis, Maus, and Gasoline Alley.
    deathbyblonde's picture

    Oh, and...

    Strangers in Paradise, of course.
    thelinster's picture

    Of course.

    SiP goes without saying, although I'm glad you did!
    thelinster's picture

    There, I said it again.

    Excuse the temporary double post. If only I could figure out how to delete it!
    deathbyblonde's picture

    It's alright

    I have the same problem all the time.  Once I managed to amass 8 posts, that was kind of embarrasing. 
    yesgrrl88's picture

    more women and comics!

    yeah. great blog!
    Na's picture

    Locas

    Yeah! Another good reason for me to mention the fantastic Love And Rockets series.

    What else hasn't been mentionned yet? Occult Crimes Taskforce by (and kind of with) Rosario Dawson (that should be reason enough to check it out and kudos to Image comics for letting us do so online: http://www.imagecomics.com/onlinecomics.php). Of course, all the classics: Ariel Shrag, Paige Braddock, Diane Dimassa, Erika Lopez.

    I'm sure I'm forgetting some but that's what the edit button is for, no?

    Thanks for all the ones I haven't tried yet. I'll be at the store tomorrow so I'll check them out.

    Bodhi's picture

    So waiting for Echo

    I have been waiting for Echo since I firt read about it in the Previews catalogue from Diamond. It's Terry Moore doing superhero genre, I think.

    But yes, *sigh* - why are people still surprised women want engaging characters, intelligent stories and great art?

    Is it because a lot of the readers on the demographics are perfectly willing to just go with stuff with big boobs, wafer-thin storylines and no characterisation at all? Just because I don't want to read alot of the D grade stuff that is being published doesn't mean I don't read comics - or that I do not possess the brain function to appreciate comics.

    Okay, getting angry here, so will stop rant here.

    Genevieve Grenier, I love your list, because I enjoy a lot of the same titles also. Titles I read and is looking out for:

    1. Peter David's Fallen Angel (I love how she's a fallen angel with PMS)
    2. Birds of Prey (I read the TPB, so I'm still wonder if it will be any good without Simone)
    3. Buffy The Vampire Slayer volume 8 
    4. Checkmate (Greg Rucka)
    5. Astonishing X-Men (Joss Whedon as writer, yay)
    6. The Sandman (must read!)
    7. Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi
    8. Fun Home
    9. Manhunter
    10. Gotham Central: Two Lives (by Greg Rucka - and it's the story where Renee Montoya, a detective at Gotham PD is "outed" when someone send a photo of her kissing her girlfriend) One of the few decent lesbian storylines in comics
    11. Fables

    Greg Rucka's Crime Bible series (currently still in singles, if I'm remembering it right) features Renee Montoya as The Question. (I believe Batwoman will be in there from time to time - but she has been so de-gayed I couldn't care less)

    DC also released their MINX series of graphic novels targeted at the "female audience". I cringed at first, but some of the titles, like Re-Gifters are not bad.

    GrrrlRomeo's picture

    Go Read the Column

    It is, I think, more indepth than "women want the same thing as men".

    "And here’s the thing I think will surprise people… women want exactly the same thing as men: engaging characters, intelligent stories and great art. The thing is, although there will certainly be some overlap, the average woman and average man may have differing opinions as to what meets that criteria. "

    The question of "great art" is where the divide is. I am instantly turned of by art that I find demeaning to women...you know, the unrealistically large boobs, teeny tiny waist, and a lack of clothing. When I see that my impression is that this book is for boys. And sometimes I wonder what the appeal is for guys because sometimes the disproportions border on grotesque. Like Elephantitis of the breasts.

    I'm not opposed to any and all augmentations or nudity when it's well done and proportionate...because after all, I do like women. LOL

    After reading the column, I'm convinced I must have the best local comic book store on the planet. I admit that I have never seen another female there, except for when I drag my girlfriend with me to the shop. (And I only just realized that now that I thought about it.) But I'm honestly treated like frickin' royalty when I'm there....and not in a freakish "OMG it's a girl" kind of way.

    IE, That limited edition hardcover of Buffy: The Long Way Home that select stores only recieved one copy of? The store saved it for me....and I didn't even ask.

    Lezpunkgrrl's picture

    Women Reading Comics? Next They'll Be Wanting To Vote!

    Good grief, do poeple get paid to research this stuff...honestly...

    Some good comics I've picked up have been (in no particular order):

    Strangers In Paradise

    Charm School a.k.a. Witch Girl Bunny

    Bleu Monday

    Liberty Meadows

    Finals (only a four part series, but soooo freak'n funny)

    Maus (ok, its a graphic novel)

    Persepolis (another novel)

    Blade of the Immortal

    Gotham Central and 52 (based around Detective Montoya)

    One good lesbian/gay comic online (mentioning in hopes that ppl will bug the artist and get more storylines going lol) is Nine Lives http://nikkistavin.com/ninelives/

    Hmmm.... not many typical comic books here. Kinda get fed up with the Superman, Spiderman, X-men, Batman and all their spin offs I use to love. What happen Stan the Man? And WTF with Supergirl and Batwoman being gay for like two seconds! Where's Mystique's bisexuality? Poison Ivy? Ugh! Batman Year One is good though and Will Eisner's Contract With God. Not really newer stuff, but good.

     

    PretaniVirago's picture

    I'm a latecomer to the whole comics/graphic novel thing...

    ...but the moment I caught a glimpse of Purgatori (produced by Chaos) I was hooked - think Xena on demonizing steroids (horns and tail included) and the attitude to boot.  Purgatori led me to Lady Death (hot but definitely written for the adolescent male) among others.  I recommend the updated version of Lady Death now called Medieval Lady Death and another character called Belladonna (though it escapes me how a medieval IRISH battle axe-wielding female warrior would be named 'Belladonna' but there ya go).  See my Avatar for what the latter looks like...gotta love a grrl with an axe and an attitude.

    • "Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field.  I'll meet you there."  Rumi - 13th century
    • "Courage in women is often mistaken for insanity"
    • Dolor Temporarius, Gloria Aeterna, Cicatrices
    Crimson013's picture

    Comics

    I tend to gravitate towards books with great artists rather than writers like Jim Lee, Todd McFarlane(not sure about the spelling), Jae Lee, Micheal Turner etc, etc.

    But occasionally you get books that have great writing and great art like:

    • Fables
    • Ultimates
    • League of Extraordinary Gentlemen(the movie still sucks)
    • Watchmen
    • V for Vendetta
    • Strangers in Paradise(naturally)
    • Buffy Season 8(my absolute favorite at the moment)
    • Astonishing X-Men
    • Runaways
    • Sin City
    • Ronin
    • 300
    • The Dark Tower
    • Hell Boy/BPRD
    • Maus(absolute genius)

    And so on and so forth, I also get Wonder Woman and CatWoman though the writing sucks on both, I'm not really holding out much hope that CW will improve anyday soon - I mostly get it just for the fantastic covers but maybe Gail Simone will be able to do something about WW's ever increasing spiral of Ugh! 

    There are a few books mentioned here that I'd really like to get - namely: Fun Home, Manhunter, Mouse Gaurd(not mentioned but still cute looking), Persopolis, Pride of Baghdad(also not mentioned), Gotham Central and Fallen Angel.

    I'm also kinda hoping and preying that Serenity/Firefly becomes a regular series, that would rock... *wanders off to her happy place*

    ~kisses are a better fate than wisdom~

    Harpy's picture

    Comics

    Heh, I have a few thousand comics in storage.  By 'storage' I mean they're still at my mom's.  She just loves that.  ;)

    Actually, comics helped me realize my orientation.  For any X-Men fans, you'll know of Shadowcat and maybe even Rachel Summers/Dark Phoenix.  The Excalibur comics were full of subtext between these two and I was totally hooked.  I wish I could find a good image of the two of them online, but I haven't had much luck.  But anyway, it was quite an epiphany when I realized why I was so obsessed with the two of them. ;)

    Another comic that women readers will enjoy is Razor by London Night Studios.  She's similar to Aeon Flux, but better.

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    thelinster's picture

    Warning!

    Learn from my experience: I had my comic books and baseball cards at my mother's for "storage" -- and she threw out the comics and gave away the cards. I had a complete set of the 1960 Pittsburgh Pirates – I can't let myself look up the value of that. Lesson: GO GET THOSE COMICS!

    There, I feel better.

    baubo's picture

    MINX

    while DC is moving from Hachette to Random for bookstore distribution my begging privileges are suspended, but i did get copies of most of the first release of MINX titles and they're not bad.  actually, as they're targeted for the female 10-14 set they're pretty darned good and The Plain Janes was my introduction to Cecil Castelluccia (Boy Proof is a great non-graphic YA read and, judging from her picture, if i were to meet Ms Castelluccia i'd want her to be boy proof, and single -- she's dreamy) and i did like the Re-Gifters, although i don't think it's as good as American Born Chinese.  speaking of, the :01 (First Second) line has really good literary offerings, although they do seem to skew towards a male audience.  but Laika is a graphic biography of the doomed sputnick dog (if you don't shed a tear you are heartless), and they publish several of Joann Sfar's works.

    many of my favorites have been mentioned already, although for my money SiP cannot be praised enough.  Alan Moore's Hypothetical Lizard is gorgeous and intelligent and all of his work i've read so far has been well worth my time.  The Sandman . . . wow.  and for anyone looking for a great satire on the "helpless girl with big endowments" genre then you must, must, must read Adam Warren's Empowered.

    always lovely to hear what smart women are reading and passionate about recommending.  i have a ton of good books to choose from because of this post.  thanks!

    Lezpunkgrrl's picture

    OMG! OMG!

    How could I forget!? "Dykes To Watch Out For"! Lol. Ok, more comic stripy then comic booky, but there are quite the storylines there. Course no one said these were off limits :)

    Any manga fans here? I don't really have the chance to get my hands on much, but I hear the "Revolutionary Girl Utena" series is a good one. I have some of the anime and its great. It can be a little off the wall sometimes but hey, you get a girl married to a girl right in the first episode (so to speak ^_^ ).

    By the way, the movie to "Persepolis" is coming out this Friday (atleast here it is). Its animated and looks exactly like the book. Which is a good read, I think, for Maus fans.

     

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