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Trish Bendix

by Trish Bendix

Retro Reviewing: "Watermelon Woman"

This week, retro reviewers Danielle and Rina welcome Danae and Gambit (from the D.E.B.S. review) to the fray in order to give proper due to Watermelon Woman.

The film is a very important classic, as it represents the first movie about the African American lesbian experience. And despite it’s association with a certain film of the same era (Go Fish), Watermelon Woman was a hit with all the reviewers. Everyone felt that the film tackled important issues (including race and representation) while still managing to be entertaining and original.

Retro Reviewing: Watermelon Woman

 

Next episode, the ladies give Fried Green Tomatoes the retro reviewing treatment.

gypsywee's picture

Excellent choice in films!

I’m so glad you reviewed this movie. It doesn’t get as much attention as it deserves. As I recall, Sundance has featured this film on occasion during Pride month…so, you can also write to them and ask them to replay it. I want to give a shout out to Valarie Walker who played Cheryl’s best friend Tamara. I thought her acting was excellent!

And, just because I can, I’m going to share a poster for the film. ;)

watermelon woman

There are also some great cameos - Sarah Schulman, Cheryl Clarke, and Toshi Reagon

danieller's picture

Toshi

We definitely noticed Toshi Reagon - in fact it took the four of us ten minutes to get her name right (I was stuck on "Tori" for a while before it clicked for me) but I think we missed the other cameos - Where were they?

 

Thanks for pointing it out though, I love a good cameo! 

gypsywee's picture

Check out...

the Cast on the IMDB page (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118125/). It lists the characters they played. Oh, and I didn't mention Camille Paglia because I think she's an ass. ;)
Daria-esque's picture

I get sad when I can't google things either...

...and yes I agree that sounded very wrong. Thank you for reviewing "Watermelon Woman" because I have not even heard of this film before now, and based on this I think I will get off my own netflix account. And I am excited that you willl be reviewing Fried Green Tomatoes one of the most lesbianish non lesbian movies out there. I really hope there is a discussion on the de-gaying of the film from the book and I might launch into my own long winded take on it. I also look forward to more of your star search like rating system you have going on.

Overall I give your vlog a 4.75

Never met a pearl quite like you that could shimmer and rot at the same time through

Denae's picture

LOVED IT!

I absolutely loved the title of your comment.  Thanks for the 4.75.  Is that the general rating system? Or the gay magic one? LOL.
Daria-esque's picture

Hey I got a reply

 Thank you kindly but when you said that in the vlog it just made me laugh so how could I not mention it?? My sarcasm and warped humor overwhelms me at times.

And to clarify you all get a 4.75 on the gay magic scale and Denae you were a welcome addition I'll rate you as a 5.

Never met a pearl quite like you that could shimmer and rot at the same time through

herecomesthesun's picture

Sounds good to me

Usually I'm a bit leery of movies that other people recommend to me, especially if I haven't laid eyes on a trailer/promo for it or read a description myself.

But I really enjoyed your review and analysis of this film and all of the interesting elements that you discussed.

So I'll definitely keep this one in mind for future watching, thanks!

Denae's picture

Thanks...

It was great reviewing this movie (and fun in the process)! Thanks for having me. 

P.S. I was just going along with Danielle (to feel better about the Dan beginning of the name) It's actually Den....LOL.  I guess that can be my stage name.  

danieller's picture

No, thank you!

And next time I'll be sure to spell your name right, in all my gratitude.
iamthehandcuff's picture

Anyone with netflix...

this is one of the Watch Instantly movies on netflix if anyone's interested.
Lestiger's picture

:(

 

no Katie!..............how could she do this to me? My hart is broken

 

 

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jitka's picture

rina, you're colombiana!

rina, you're colombiana! I'm latin american, too, and I've also attempted to research our queer history and it is so depressing. Watermelon Woman I learned about after I read Camille Paglia's sexual personnae; I had googled her and found out she was in this film. I totally want to see the film-- all the more for how difficult it is to find. I've just always had an inkling it was good. I loved your review for it except now I want to see it more!

p.s I'm so happy you'll review FGT! I love Iggy and Ruth-- both the film and novel versions of themselves. And just to let you know I love your vlog, you're all great to watch and listen to!

Riwas22's picture

Hi!

Yes it's true I am Colombian and Argentinian, but born in Colombia. If any of you have any suggestions for a latin lesbian film to review on the retro review show let us know. For some reason I can only think of the movie Frida.

Thanks for the comments!

Rina

Daria-esque's picture

You've probably heard of it before

There is a film that has to do with LGBT history. Its very hard to find I had seen parts of it once before. It was released in 1992 and it is a documentary film by Barbara Hammer and its called "Nitrate Kisses". It deals with people from different backgrounds different times but it is centered around sex scenes. So anyone a bit sensitive about that may not like it. But its only a suggestion that you can look up.

Never met a pearl quite like you that could shimmer and rot at the same time through

jitka's picture

Okay Raerly's suggestion

Okay Raerly's suggestion might be better, but I had to really think about whether I've never seen a lesbian film with a latina in it, my gosh!

 The only film I can think of is, is one from Spain with Ariadna Gil playing the lesbian daughter, while Mirabel Verdu(Y Tu Mama Tambien)and Penelope Cruz play two of her three sisters. Gil is hot as a dyke IMO, but the film is very hetero-centric. A funny and smart film, I thought, and at the time one that really made me happy for including a lesbian who spoke spanish like me...

But if you ever see this you might find the sex scene with Gil's lesbian character a bit weird... I  just wonder what Katie would think of this! It was a long time ago that I saw this film and the title I remember was Belle Epoque. You will have to deal with subtitles, though.

Anyway, thanks for replying Rina-- that was awesome!!!

Daria-esque's picture

It IS really hard to find one

 Most movies in that culture doesn't have much to do with lesbians there are more examples I can think of with male homosexual characters than female. Y Tu Mama Tambien has an example in it I believe. But other suggestions for documentaries that I enjoyed were: The Celluloid Closet and Small Town Gay Bar. Anyone reading this should check them out!

Never met a pearl quite like you that could shimmer and rot at the same time through

Riwas22's picture

The Celluloid Closet

I'm so glad you mentioned the Celluloid Closet. I recently watched it, which explains my much passionate rant about queer representation. yes, it's true I am very obsessed with documentaries. I'll totally have to check out Small Town Gay Bar. Thanks for the suggestions. Rina
Riwas22's picture

Small Town Gay Bar

I totally watched Small Town Gay Bar mainly because of your recommendation.. Wow that movie was excellent. Thanks for the recommendation.
NewAgeHippie's picture

blahhh... spamers

I love this volg. I tend to find some way to watch the movies after I watch it. And i'm going to have to go find this one now.
spiralstare's picture

as always

Nice review, and guests -- I miss Caroline and Katie though. But Katie teaching lacrosse? Sexy.
coffeesky's picture

I enjoyed watching this

I enjoyed watching this vlog, and I love how passionate all of you are about the films...it's contagious!  I'll definitely add this movie to my list of things to view.  I'm going to break-out my copy of FGT soon to rewatch before the review in a couple of weeks. Maybe I'll even reread the book for the 5th time if I'm bored...
junibird's picture

thanks for reviewing this

thanks for reviewing this film, retro reviewers! i had never heard of it, but now that i've watched your vlog, i definitely will go and try to seek it out (i think i may have a little trouble getting my hands on it though). it was nice to hear about the movie resonated with some of you, especially Rina. i always enjoy learning more about you guys and why you personally liked (or disliked) the film. i can't wait to see this film :)

looking forward to fried green tomatoes :)

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Rah ABC's picture

my rating?

Rina = 10

frankie44nd's picture

great film

I first saw this movie on Sundance during pride month back in 2000.  I was so surprised to see such an early film about african american women who love women, and even more surprised to see an interracial couple.  I love this film for what it represents during a time in which there was no representation.  Being multiracial and a person who is usually in an interracial coupling, this film definitely resonated with me. 

 Thank you for review this and thank you for being passionate about it as well.

I love FGT!!!  Mary Louise Parker and Mary Stuart Masterson = HOTTA!!!  I loved the book and I can't wait to hear your take on the de-gaying of the main characters as well as all the lesbian subtext that was left in the film.

 P.S.  Love the vlog!  I am a film geek as well without the film school cred.  Keep up the great work! 

lindabeth's picture

this was a great film

I watched this film in a grad English class and I loved it.  Awesome that you reviewed it here!

 

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TheWeyrd1's picture

Try Blockbuster Online

I was able to view this movie a few years ago on DVD (in a compilation disk I think) which I rented from Blockbuster online.
alex j's picture

I really enjoyed watching

I really enjoyed watching you all on the WMW, a film I produced. My friend Sarah, who played the CLIT archivist in a cameo, turned me on to the site. A few tidbits in response: Blockbuster refused to carry the film even though we fought them for a good year. This was primarily homophobia, they are a suprisingly conservative company and the graphic sex scene was the reason. Racism (and homophoia) played a larger part in the film's limited theatrical distribution. Although the film won prizes and rave reviews wherever it went, we were told that audiences wanted their blacks to be more "urban." The much disputed driving scene was supposed to be Cheryl leaving Diana after their last failed night in bed, very upset, not sure where to go. I never knew it wasn't legible. So thanks. We put the short quote at the end of the film late in the game (after Berlin I think) because audiences weren't getting that it was fake, and we thought they needed to know this, to get all the meanings of the film. The photos are by famous lesbian photographer, Zoe Leonard, and they have had their own very large life in the international art world. Keep up the good work!
Denae's picture

Thanks

Thank you SOO much for responding to our review.  It is so great to hear from the person who produced the film! The driving scene makes much more sense now.  LOL.  It is SOOO sad to hear what a hard time you had with getting Blockbuster to carry it and for it to be distributed more (I'm not surprised though).  The good news is that the net (Netflix etc) has made this movie even more accessible to others. Thanks for watching!
danieller's picture

thank you

Thank you so much for seeking us out and commenting. we're thrilled to hear what you think of the review - and happy to have those little loose ends cleared up a bit. We loved the film and appreciate your work.

Thank you so much for watching!

 

nevermorelenore's picture

new to retro review

I really like the idea of retro reviewing!  This is my first time watching you and I loved it.  I am a little upset that I have not seen the film yet, but that is being remedied even as I type this.  I will definately be back next time for the review of Fried Green Tomatoes.  I have seen this movie several times, you can't escape it it in the south!  My mother still says "To Wanda"  everytime she gets a parking space up front.  I am very excited to hear what you have to say about the movie.  
ValarieW's picture

I was in the movie and appreciate that you reviewed it

Hey everyone,

Just wanted to say thanks for reviewing this film. I played the part of Cheryl's best friend in the movie (Tamara), and at the time it was just this little film idea. Having watched your review it is nice to know that the film stands up against time and has initiated so much discussion. You mentioned being entertained, and I hope that my character provided some of that for you--and that I didn't represent the bad acting that you spoke of! Thanks again for making me feel proud to have been part of this project. And yes I agree that Cheryl does have a nice tushie! All the best, Valarie Walker

 

 

 

briefcase's picture

I want to see this film

I had heard of this movie ever since I started researching what it took to be a lesbian, but I hadn't realized that I'd never actually seen it. Now that I have made that realization, I'm bummed that I can't find it anywhere! (I'll have to befriend a Netflix member.)

Thank you ladies for being so aware of the subtleties of racism and the prejudice that still exists. I also like to see that Rina is so proud of her heritage, since one can't really tell just by looking at her. I am someone you can't tell by looking at me (I'm half black), and I used to be ashamed of it because of all of the outside reactions. Fortunately, with accepting my sexuality, I've become proud of all of the ingredients that make me me! 

Also, seeing you ladies unapologetically embracing your sexuality is a nice refresher in this hetero-normative world.

Thank you!

Riwas22's picture

Thanks

Thanks for your comments.  I totally relate to your comments in more ways than one. I think it's important to challenge how minorities are represented in the media. Hopefully, by challenging these representations we can get to a place where people learn not to make assumptions about people based on the way they look.  

And to Valarie Walker:

Thanks for your comments.  We do tend to be rather nit picky.  For every film we are very critical, but we hope that we are just challenging our fellow lesbian filmmakers to be the masters of their craft. This is a very important film though and I was very sad to read about all the issues it faced with distribution.  I also read about how this film and tongues untied was targeted by conservative senators. The Watermelon Woman was such an important film and I only hope that as a community we can get the word out about how important this film is. 

Thanks again.

Rina 


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